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  1. craigjnachtegaele
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    Hello everyone, my name is Craig.  I want to share my story. 
    Lat week on the 23rd of September in the morning I started my usual day.  Got up, made coffee, had my first smoke of the day, coughed my lungs out as per usual.  That morning was a bit different though for some reason, I didn't feel quite right.  I felt like I was getting another chest cold or flu, cigarettes were tasting funny, started feeling feverish, short of breath, the whole works.  So I just took it easy, curled up on the couch wrapped up in a blanket.  I was finding I couldn't lie down....I would start coughing and couldn't bring anything out.  Had a lunch about 11 am or so, had my usual smoke afterwards, but I had a very hard time with it, I coughed badly on each drag.  After I put it out I had one smoke left in my pack, then I would need to run into town to get more...but I felt very crappy.  so...I kinda sat and dozed in and out for most of the afternoon until about 9 pm... I could hardly take a breath, I was light headed, fevered and generally felt like an elephant was sitting on my chest!
    I decided it was time to see a Doctor...but it was Sunday evening so it was the emergency room.  After registering at the admitting desk I put my paperwork at the nurse station and sat down...there was about 15 or so ahead of me, so figured I had a long wait ahead.  The nurse called me up for the assessment review, and at that point I was taken immediately into the ER room... My O2 saturation was below 80%.... I was hooked up on Oxygen...nebbulizers, antibiotics, blood tests...and of course all kinds of questions. 
    To this point in my life, I had hardly needed anything more than an occasional aspirin, maybe some oral antibiotics...so I was feeling pretty overwhelmed...and bloody scared I tell you!!
    Chest X-ray's showed Chronic Bronchitis and a spot of pneumonia!  After being in that room all night...in a chair till 7 am (I did get breakfast mind you), no sleep to speak of.... I was finally admitted to a room on the 3rd floor, hooked up to the wall oxygen supply at 6 liters per hour...or min...not sure how it's delivered.  I spent the rest of that day being monitored constantly for my oxy levels...could barely maintain between 80 to 85%. 
    That's when they gave me the news... I had COPD, Chronic Bronchitis!
    95% was due to smoking of course, but I was also a welder for 20 years, lived and grew up on a farm, I am now a Journeyman Agricultural mechanic (so exposed to all kinds of grain dust etc as well as diesel exhaust fumes).  So...even my carrier choices were my doom, even if I Didn't smoke!
    That was my turning point...I had quit a few times but always seem to falter, and end up smoking more than I did before I quit...and never for more than a few day's without a "Cheater" smoke that only lead to more and more till I was back to a full pack a day.
    I am happy to say that by the 27th of Sept, in the morning I had been taken off the oxygen for 24 hours and maintained 94% plus...so I was good to go home...without the need to have an oxygen bottle tethered to me :)  But...I have a whole pharmacy of medication now along with Combivent inhaler.  But I am thankful I can still work and not be on disability...well, yet anyway.
    That one last smoke I had left at home before I went to the hospital....Gone, along with every ash tray and any other related junk that went with it!  I figured I had already traveled this far without a smoke...I'm done with it!
    Today makes exactly one week...no cheats and no intention of starting again....being able to breath is so very important to me now, I am not going to mess it up.
    I take each day as it comes...if I made it through without looking to have a smoke, then I am one more day as a Non-Smoker :)
  2. brieffree
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    Morning Craig

    Welcome to helpline, really Dramatic story, you remain me when I started my quit! For an other health issues.

    Congratulations in 1 week smoke free!

    Is very important that you remember that story! To Keep your Quit for good!

    Feel free to post how you do! We are here to support you!

    One day at the time!

    Drink a lot water, distract yourself, enjoy every time you brief pure Air! You are so worth it!
  3. craigjnachtegaele
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    Thank you for your words of encouragement.  I start each morning in the worst trigger zone in my house, right here in front of my computer, I smoked the heaviest right here.  But, I can't avoid this spot, so I am forcing myself to over come, this I feel is my greatest challenge...and I AM doing it with the reminder of being tethered to that oxygen tube.  I guess for me it is the most powerful image I have in my fight to be a non-smoker.  I didn't learn to be a pack-a-day smoker in one day....it took a long time and practice to get to that point...the Whole time thinking... "I can put these down and walk away any time I want"  
    I can hear myself saying that line...I am sure I'm not alone.  I have quit several times,,, in fact this is my second time this year alone. 
    If I can say anything to someone who is thinking of quitting.... Do it!  Set your date, stick to it... 90% of the fight is in your own mind.  The body will heal itself in time.
    I have used..and still use the Nicorette lozenges, I have dentures so the gum doesn't work, it just sticks like poop on a blanket, plus I could never just chew once or twice then stop lol.
    Use something that works for you, but don't be afraid to try different things.  I have tried the patch...and it worked...But, when I was at work or did anything where I would sweat a little...the patch would fall off or get stuck to my clothing.  So I use the lozenges, they work best for me...pop a little tablet in the side of your cheek, it does get strong...or "hot" as one person had described to me....but it soon settles and it lasts close to an hour.
    Lately I have used a breath mint to try and ween myself off... see how it goes :)
  4. madeleine, quit coach
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    Hi Craig,

    Welcome to Smokers' Helpline online community! 

    As Brieffree mentioned, at SHL.ca, we are here to support you! We have an amazing, supportive community of members who have been through, or are working through, the quit process. Its a safe place to share how you feel and ask questions in a judgment-free zone.You are also welcome to speak to a quit coach over the phone at 1-877-513-5333 for additional support!  

    Thank you for sharing your powerful story of your health-related experiences. You display such immense motivation and determination to quit in your writing. And most of all, CONGRATULATIONS on completing your first week smoke free! You're using great strategies to help you in this quit: the powerful image of the oxygen tube, using the lozenges, using a breath mint, and reaching out for support. You're welcome to share with us what the best things are about being smoke-free!  

    Look forward to hearing more about your journey, Craig! Here's to another smoke free day! 

    Madeleine 
    Last modified on 01 Oct 2018 10:04 by madeleine, quit coach
  5. manderson4
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    Morning Craig Like you I have quit multiply times over the last few years. I have used combination therapy of Patches and the nicorette spray. I found with the patches I would clean the spot with rubbing alcohol first then rub the patch between my hands or set my hot coffee of top of them still in the package for a couple of minutes just to help with the adhesion. Then once I put them on I would put some surgical tape over them to help them stick. During the summer I also put a bandage or sports wrap over them to keep them in place while I would sweat. Good luck to you on this incredible journey.
  6. eagerquit
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    Hi craigjnachtegaele,

    It sometimes takes a major disaster to lead finally to a solid decision to quit. I was hospitalized myself and went through triple bypass surgery. You are quite right about 90% of the fight being in one's own mind. Getting over the excuses for smoking with the sold reasons for quitting is very important. Keep a copy of the journey to quitting in front of you as a reminder of where you came from. I too used lozenges in my quit and weaned to mints over a period of months. Keep hanging out here to read about other's successes. I wish you every success in your own quit.

    Eagerquit
  7. brieffree
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    Hi Craig

    You know, you are not alone, I quit almost 3 years ago, after the Doctor told me I had 30 Percent of Lung capacity Damage from smoking. In front of my Kid!
    You can image the situation, He told me you want me to help you? Of course I said, well you have to quit! He said! That was it! I start my quit that Sunday 7/15 since then I have my High and low moments, I cheated and quit again so many times, until one day I said: is time for me to stop cheating.

    Now I feel the smoke and I walk away!
    It take a lot work but is worth it!

    I just Glad that you are there looking for support to quit!

    No matter what you do, just distract your self from the moment! and you will win the Battle!
  8. treepeo
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    Hi Craig,

    What a horrible, scary experience you have been through.  I am so glad to hear you made it out on the other side.  

    Sometimes we need a kick in the pants before we get with the program.  I know that my breathing got more and more laboured over time.  Climbing even one set of stairs made my heart pound like crazy, to the point where I couldn't even talk to someone until the pounding subsided.  Even though I was scared, I still continued to smoke.   When I look back on it, I can't believe I waited so long to quit, but my addiction had a powerful hold on me.  To be honest, I think I was on track to having a massive heart attack.  I am so glad I made the decision to quit when I did, because I honestly don't know if I would be around otherwise.

    You have now been smoke free for a week.  All I can say is, hang in there.  Don't give in, no matter what.  Live by NOPE, Not One Puff Ever.  Drink water, distract yourself, and spend your money on things that are going to make you happy.  I know it's really hard, but it is so worth it.  You are worth it.  Check out the stop smoking apps out there.  They keep track of things like how many days you have quit, how much money you have saved, and how much life you have gained back.  Seeing stats like that will help to motivate you to keep your quit.

    And keep posting, because we are all here to help and support you.
  9. craigjnachtegaele
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    Another day in...looking forward to the 2 week goal :)   I Thank everyone for the words of support and encouragement, it is a comfort to know there are ppl out there who have had similar experiences. 
    Manderson4... Thanks for the tip on the patch... I have tried several methods to get them to stay...including shaving the area to make sure it had a clean surface to stick to, just never seemed to stay.  The lozenges work best for me, I have already gone from using the 4 mg tablet to the 2mg this week, and I am using fewer tablets.  As far as saving money from smoking...until I am past using the craving aids and other medication I have to finish off due to my hospital stay, I am not seeing much savings, but I know that will come.  I plan to take what I normally would spend on cigarettes in a month...set it aside and reward myself with a vacation in the next year or so, something all inclusive and tropical. 
    In reflection, I kinda wish I had taken a "Selfie" while I was in the hospital with all the tubes and IV's connected as a visual reminder for myself...but the experience is so burned into my mind right now I know I could never forget.  It is the driving force that keeps me from falling back.  The hard parts are when I get fuel...I always picked up a pack when I fueled up.  After I eat, as I drive, on the phone, sitting at the computer at home...I had so many "Spots" where I would light up lol.  I can't avoid any of those area's, so,,, I am taking them head on and powering through the urges and I'm winning!  I can do this!
    If anyone wishes to copy my story for what ever propose, especially if it will help someone else, Please do so, you have my full permeation  :)
  10. treepeo
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    Hey Craig,

    I know what you mean.  The worst for me was when I ate.  Even something as small as a candy made me crave to the max.  So I made myself look around at other people.  And I said to myself, they are not craving, so ditch the habit for good and eventually you will not crave either.  And then I did things to distract myself.

    You are doing great, Craig.  Hang in there.
  11. brieffree
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    Hi Craig

    As you said you are afraid of failing those moments, there is an easy solution.

    Just go around instead, go from other side, avoid the easy way, make a plan how to be prepare for that Moment.

    I get rid off my crave after eat, with Carrots. It rally woks with me.

    All you must think is You are a Non Smoker!

    All the Best!
  12. craigjnachtegaele
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    Good morning everyone :)
    Today marks a second week since I gave up on an old friend...the cigarette.  I know he is doing well because I see him everywhere, the urge to visit is strong, but I am stronger.  I have new friends now :)  
    Ok...a little corny lol, but I am enjoying being a non-smoker much more than I was as a smoker... no more morning hacking, I don't gurgle or wheeze at night any more, I can take a deep breath without it hurting or choking, my sense of smell seems to be coming back and food even seems to taste better now, there seems to be nothing bad about my choice to quit!
    Today I have another story to tell.  Last week my Mother, who is in her 70's (she would kill me if I said anything more lol), had a scheduled surgery for...forgive my spelling, angio plastic procedure...fixing some veins or arteries in her legs for us laymen.  Surgery went well...they wheeled her into recovery, still sedated, and was doing fine.  I want to mention now that she has been a lifetime smoker since her early teens. 
    Dad was on his way home, (Saskatoon to North Battleford...roughly about 87 miles) when he got a call from the Doctor...Mom had gone into Cardiac arrest! 
    Dad turned around and went back to the city, called my Sister as he didn't want to take us boys away from harvest...my two brother and I farm the family farm of 6000 + acres, and things were pretty scary for a while but she stabilized for that night.  The next evening she was still needing the oxygen tube to breath, her lungs were filling with fluid and they kept needing to drain.
    After that the story gets better, she started to improve enough they took the tube out and first thing she asked was "What the hell happened?".
    Aside from a lot of tests and possibly needing a stint placed...she is doing well now.  Tests showed a stint wasn't required and the Doctor felt it can be managed with medications.  BUT, she had to quit smoking and got the warning that if she didn't she would have a stroke before Christmas!  They provided her with the patch while she is in the hospital where she will be for a bit yet, still more tests to be done Tuesday  Oct 9th. 
    She has been up off the bed yesterday for a bit, so progress is underway :) She has even been texting me a little lately too.  So...now I have to become a personal coach, and we both have solid reasons for quitting...this will make our entire family smoke free now :)
    I hope everyone has a wonderful Thanks Giving weekend, I know my family has a lot to be thankful for!!
  13. craigjnachtegaele
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    I want to add something that I seem to have missed in previous posts... after I was released from the hospital I went to my family Doctor and he gave me a prescription for Champix...well a generic equivalent  called Apo-Varenicline.  I started this a week after I had my last smoke, but while I was using the Nicorette lozenges (4mg) all week while I was hospitalized.  I just stopped using those and now am just on the Champix (easier to type than the other name lol)
    Cravings are minimal and quite easy to ignore. 
    There are so many options out there to help us quit.  I just wish there was a bit more help financially in our struggle... one thought I had was subsidizing smoke cessation aids out of tobacco taxes collected.  I know I have paid my lifetime wages in those taxes over the 35 years of being a smoker, it would be nice to have that as a reward for quitting.
    But...I know that would never happen lol.
    I just realized that this is my 3rd week hahaha, I quit on the 23rd of September (the day I went into the hospital).  I got this!!
  14. emily, quit coach
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    Hi craigjnachtegaele,

    Congratulations on quitting! Thank-you for sharing your story with us. It sounds like you and your mother have a lot of motivation to quit.

    So good to hear about the benefits you are noticing.

    Have a great smoke free Thanksgiving,
    Emily
  15. treepeo
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    Hi Craig,

    It is great that your mother stabilized and is getting better.  I hope the two of you can help each other to keep the quit once she is released.

    Before I quit, I was a heart attack waiting to happen.  I got winded so easily it was frightening.  And my heart would often beat out of my chest.  That was one of the many reasons I decided to get tough with myself and quit for good.  And not a day goes by that I am not thankful that I kicked the habit.

    Congrats to you on your 3 weeks, Craig.  Keep it going.  It is so worth it.
  16. craigjnachtegaele
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    Thank you treepeo, thought I would give an update on my Mom, she has been up and walking around, the staff provided her with a patch to help her out as she is not allowed out to even try to have a smoke...I hope she is ready for this...I had been thinking hard about quitting again for some time before I ended up in the hospital, so I just seized the moment and made that day my quit day!
    I will say for those reading who have just quit or are seriously thinking about it, if your in here reading...it's time, go for it!!  I used the stop smoking aids before and I had always picked up smoking within the second week...one here...there...soon a couple a week...then over the weekend...wasn't long before I was full bore at it again, feeling crappy and down because I had let myself...and everyone around me down.
    This time was different!  This weekend I had run out of the lozenges, so I decided not to buy any more...just rely on the champix, of which I am into the second week of them. 
    I am feeling better than I ever have....I can go from one end of my yard to the other without having to catch my breath (My yard is 17 acres lol).  I can go up a flight of stairs now without fear...food tastes amazing (that can be dangerous lol), and my sense of smell seems to have...well...woke up!!
    I never want to feel the way I used to ever again!  this feels too good to mess up!
  17. jeyan
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    Craig, you're absolutely correct! Glad you took your Doctor's advise to quit!  Our health is most important than anything. No one can suffer but us if we get ill. Smoking is not the solutions to our problems, rather it allows us to run away and hide behind the addiction to avoid facing, accepting, and resolving those from problems.    When I used to smoke I used to turn off the radio as soon I hear someone talking about Cancer on radio, as I was always worried. Now that I have quit my mind is at peace.  :) We can do this!
  18. jenna lee, quit coach
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    treepeo, craigjnachtegaele and jeyan,

    You are all so inspirational. Congratulations to all 3 of you and here's to celebrating those successes and quitting benefits.

    Whether you have your senses back, or have a new and improved mindset of being in control over cigarettes, or your heart health has improved, you now don't ever have to ever worry again about cigarettes harming your bodies. 

    Keep up the amazing work,

    Jenna Lee
  19. craigjnachtegaele
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    Well... I have made it 4 weeks now...wow, what an amazing feeling!!  I am no longer using the lozenges any more, just using the Champix therapy.  Cravings have been minimal, mostly after I have a meal, that one still shows up.  It's not that bad though, more of a fleeting thought now and I can distract easily out of it. 
    For anyone looking to quit...DO IT!! Yes...it is a difficult road, but I can tell you this feeling I have now...I had forgot what it was like to take a Deep breath without coughing!  I don't smell like an ashtray any more and most importantly... I don't miss out on special events because I was out for a smoke!  I can enjoy a movie without needing to run out the door the second it's over..not loose a drink when I am at a pub because the waitress thought I had left...And, no longer have a $400.00 bill every month supporting the habit!
    Have a wonderful smoke free week everyone...check in again next week :)
  20. lillian, quit coach
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    Good Morning craigjnachtegaele!

    Congratulations on 4 weeks of freedom!!

    The benefits keep adding up don't they?

    Thank you for the inspiration and the words of wisdom and experience.

    Hope you celebrate your success today, you deserve one.

    Lillian
  21. craigjnachtegaele
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    Hello to all :)
    I didn't post last week and I apologize, very busy times out here on the prairies with harvest, being an Agricultural Mechanic and having our family farm, it has been a crazy busy few weeks!
    I have loads of temptations, and have come close to slipping a few times, stress related... but I just kept that image of myself in the hospital, and focused on my desire to be free of the wrecking ball and chain of tobacco. 
    Today marks week 5 complete, and into week 6 and I couldn't feel better!  For any new quitters out there...Hang in there, it is soooo worth it!!  It's a rough road and don't be afraid to use any and all resources available to you... I want you to feel as good about being smoke free as I do now.  I can enjoy my morning coffee, sit at my computer for hours and not be bothered by the physical urge to lite up...my home is starting to smell better, after much cleaning because it was all I could smell...like one big ashtray, plus all the cleaning was like a therapy, a way to purge the life as a smoker from my life and start new, (plus it helped curb the cravings ;)  )
    Hang in there, one day at a time...each successful day forward is a victory, and if you slip...it's not the end of the world, I always felt so much shame and disappointment in myself, but set a new date and do it again, it Does get easier each time.  You did not learn how to smoke in one day...it was a long process to get to a full time smoker...it is going to take time and practice to re-learn how to be a non-smoker...just don't let it win!
  22. treepeo
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    Hi Craig,

    I am delighted to hear that you are now beginning Week 6 as a non-smoker.  WooHoo, that is terrific, good for you!

    You raise a really important point.  It takes time to re-learn how to live life as a non-smoker.  You used to deal with every situation by lighting up a cigarette.  Now, you have to figure out how to deal with stuff without lighting up.  So you not only have to break your routine, but you also have to break your mental and physical addiction.

    It's good to remember yourself lying in a hospital bed when you get tempted, and to focus on how much better you are feeling now.  Positive reinforcement like this really helps.  To this day, I still take time to think about all of the ways my life has changed for the better once I quit smoking.  It helps to keep me motivated when the going gets tough.

    Keep up the good work, Craig.  You are getting it done!
  23. ocean
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    Hi Craig,
    I miss that quick high and energy boost when I quit smoking. I'm on my second attempt this year, just starting after a 4 month relapse.  I imagine the physical nature of your job helps elevate those good endorphins, something I realized on my last quit was to exercise to get the willy nilly's out!  And this time, I'm not going to give up my morning caffeine either.  Your story is inspirational and I'm glad to have you here in this support group.  Cheers,  Ocean
  24. eddie
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    Hi Craig, I hope you’ve stayed quit. Thank you for sharing your story. It reminds me of a friend who had his last smoke on the way to hospital for a lung biopsy. He never smoked again, and so far he’s in remission.
    im working on day 2, cold turkey.
    stuggling, but determined.  I’ve tried every aid there is, never much success.
    th best I’ve done recently is I had 7 months and a few days smoke free before my wife and and I spit up. I quit and demanded she quit and that ended the marriage.
  25. shazzan
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    I am sorry to hear that your wife did not support you in your quest, yet reading the brochure you can download about getting support from spouse, family and friends also makes it pretty clear that you cannot bully them into quitting. They have to want to. In that regard i am very lucky because my spouse has seen me on line researching, knows i joined this forum today and have set a quit date. He is happy for me, and supportive, but even better it has given him the incentive to quit again as well. Whether he does or not is up to him but i am staying on target.  Don't give up on quitting... that sounds weird..lol  and it certainly is time to "quit while your ahead". Not only will it benefit you but give other smoking members of the family encouragement. Once they see you can do it maybe they will believe in themselves. I know it can be done. I see so many testimonials here that say so. 
  26. linda, quit coach
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    Hi Craig,

    Thank you for sharing your powerful and inspiring story. Your experience and wisdom is so great. Congratulations for reaching your 6 weeks milestones! It’s awesome! It shows a lot of hard work, perseverance and determination. This is something to be really proud of - Way to go!

    We are happy to hear that your quit is going well and it seems like things are getting better for you. You have faced temptations but you’ve persevered, kept motivating yourself with positive thoughts and took the time “to re-learn how to be a non-smoker”. It’s wonderful!

    Craig, you are doing fantastic! Keep going strong and keep celebrating your success!
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